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29 October 2026
- 15:0915:09, 29 October 2026 diff hist +7,070 Daemon Moon Rising No edit summary Tag: Visual edit
- 15:0715:07, 29 October 2026 diff hist +18 N File:Daemon Moon Rising.png No edit summary current
25 October 2026
- 00:3000:30, 25 October 2026 diff hist +9,003 Magus Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
- 00:2500:25, 25 October 2026 diff hist +9,351 Engineer Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
- 00:2400:24, 25 October 2026 diff hist +5,496 N Template:Armor/EN-MA-Defensive Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 00:2300:23, 25 October 2026 diff hist +5,496 N Template:Armor/EN-MA-Off-NoWS Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 00:1900:19, 25 October 2026 diff hist +8,782 Bright Wizard Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
- 00:1400:14, 25 October 2026 diff hist +8,737 Sorceress Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
- 00:1300:13, 25 October 2026 diff hist +5,122 N Template:Armor/M RDPS-Hyb-Off Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 00:1300:13, 25 October 2026 diff hist +5,122 N Template:Armor/M RDPS-Hyb-Def Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 00:1300:13, 25 October 2026 diff hist +5,122 N Template:Armor/M RDPS-Defensive Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 00:1300:13, 25 October 2026 diff hist +5,122 N Template:Armor/M RDPS-Offensive Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 00:0600:06, 25 October 2026 diff hist +9,054 Squig Herder Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
24 October 2026
- 21:3621:36, 24 October 2026 diff hist +8,991 Shadow Warrior Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
- 21:3621:36, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,299 N Template:Armor/P RDPS-Offensive Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 21:3521:35, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,299 N Template:Armor/P RDPS-LR-WS Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 21:3521:35, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,112 N Template:Armor/P RDPS-Defensive Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 21:3421:34, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,299 N Template:Armor/P RDPS-Hyb-Def Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 21:3421:34, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,299 N Template:Armor/P RDPS-Hyb-Off Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 21:2021:20, 24 October 2026 diff hist +8,637 Disciple of Khaine Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
- 21:1621:16, 24 October 2026 diff hist +8,542 Warrior Priest Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
- 21:1621:16, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,309 N Template:Armor/WP-DK-Shield Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 21:1621:16, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,122 N Template:Armor/WP-DK-Defensive Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 21:1521:15, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,309 N Template:Armor/WP-DK-Shield-Off Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 21:1421:14, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,112 N Template:Armor/WP-DK-Heal Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 21:1421:14, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,309 N Template:Armor/WP-DK-Melee Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 21:1421:14, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,122 N Template:Armor/WP-DK-Shield-Def Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 21:1421:14, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,112 N Template:Armor/WP-DK-Heal-Def Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 21:0721:07, 24 October 2026 diff hist +8,621 Runepriest Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
- 21:0221:02, 24 October 2026 diff hist +8,532 Zealot Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
- 20:4920:49, 24 October 2026 diff hist +8,597 Shaman Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
- 20:4520:45, 24 October 2026 diff hist +8,363 Archmage Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
- 20:4420:44, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,112 N Template:Armor/Mg Heal-Defensive Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 20:4320:43, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,122 N Template:Armor/Mg Heal-DPS-Def Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 20:4320:43, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,112 N Template:Armor/Mg Heal-Heal Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 20:4320:43, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,122 N Template:Armor/Mg Heal-DPS Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 20:4220:42, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,112 N Template:Armor/Mg Heal-Heal-Def Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 20:3820:38, 24 October 2026 diff hist +9,224 Witch Elf Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
- 20:3520:35, 24 October 2026 diff hist +9,193 Witch Hunter Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
- 20:3420:34, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,309 N Template:Armor/Stealth-Hyb-Off Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 20:3320:33, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,309 N Template:Armor/Stealth-Defensive Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 20:3320:33, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,309 N Template:Armor/Stealth-Hyb-Def Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 20:3320:33, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,309 N Template:Armor/Stealth-Offensive Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 20:2820:28, 24 October 2026 diff hist +9,280 Choppa Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
- 20:2320:23, 24 October 2026 diff hist +9,116 Marauder Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
- 20:1920:19, 24 October 2026 diff hist +9,201 Slayer Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
- 20:1520:15, 24 October 2026 diff hist +9,226 White Lion Armor Sets No edit summary current Tag: Visual edit
- 20:1420:14, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,112 N Template:Armor/MDPS-Hyb-Off Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 20:1420:14, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,309 N Template:Armor/MDPS-Hyb-Def Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current
- 20:1320:13, 24 October 2026 diff hist +5,309 N Template:Armor/MDPS-Defensive Created page with "<includeonly><table style="border:0"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;text-align:center"> <b>[[{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}}}|{{{name|Armor Set}}}]]</b> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <tr><td>{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imgwidth|120px}}}]]}}</td></tr> </table> </td><td style="vertical-align:top"> <table class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"> <caption>{{#if:{{{setlink|}}}|{{{setlink}}}|{{{name|Armor Se..." current